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morfinx2010-08-18 02:23:18 +0000 #1
Hi guys, I'm looking at getting a 2007 335i Coupe. The best price I've seen from a private seller is about 26K, and CPO adds about 4-5k. I have a couple of questions:

1) Is CPO worth the additional 4-5K? In other words, how likely am I going to spend more than 4-5K in repairs in year 5 and 6? Seems like it would be unlikely to require that many major repairs. But I want to get the owners' opinions here

2) What are some common problems that can happen with this car? I looked around the forum for a bit but didn't see any consensus, so excuse me if this question has been asked before

Thanks in advance!
wren572010-08-18 02:25:32 +0000 #2
1) Generally no, not if it is that expensive. Look around for reputable third-party warranty companies like Ford ESP, auto warranty direct, etc. Much cheaper.

2) HPFP and door lock actuators are the most common I've seen. Do a search for these.
bkr3352010-08-18 03:08:06 +0000 #3
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Originally Posted by morfinx

Hi guys, I'm looking at getting a 2007 335i Coupe. The best price I've seen from a private seller is about 26K, and CPO adds about 4-5k. I have a couple of questions:

1) Is CPO worth the additional 4-5K? In other words, how likely am I going to spend more than 4-5K in repairs in year 5 and 6? Seems like it would be unlikely to require that many major repairs. But I want to get the owners' opinions here

2) What are some common problems that can happen with this car? I looked around the forum for a bit but didn't see any consensus, so excuse me if this question has been asked before

Thanks in advance!

Do not own a 335i without a BMW warranty. Trust me. Common problems? Hahahaaha about a zillion. Worth it? Yes, absolutely....just make sure to go CPO.
morfinx2010-08-18 02:56:28 +0000 #4
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Originally Posted by bkr335

Do not own a 335i without a BMW warranty. Trust me. Common problems? Hahahaaha about a zillion. Worth it? Yes, absolutely....just make sure to go CPO.

Thanks for the reply brk335. Why do you not like third party warranties? I did a quick search and seems like there a lot of people who are happy with Warranty Direct? Just curious if you've had a bad experience
2kaccordocoupe2010-08-18 03:55:21 +0000 #5
With these cars you are basically rolling the dice. It's up to you and what you feel will provide you with the necessary piece of mind to sleep at night.

Also keep in mind that all the horror stories and complaints you read on here only represent a small fraction of the vehicles sold. Take it with a grain of salt. When was the last time you read a forum where people posted about how great a car is. People only post to complain about something

German cars are not exactly known for the reliability, especially a twin turbo one. I would get some sort of warranty.
tony200092010-08-18 04:00:12 +0000 #6
The CPO is worth having. You can negotiate the price of the car with the dealership; just make it clear to them that you are ready and able to buy the car and be firm.

I did that by calling and telling them: I see you have such-and-such car showing in your inventory online. I want that car, but I cannot pay what you are asking for it. I can pay x-amount for it. If you'll sell it at that price, I'll be there in an hour.

When they came back with a counter-offer that was higher than what I'd offered, I told them, "Thanks for your time. That's more than I want to spend."

The salesman didn't let me get off the phone; he asked me to hold on. The guy put me on hold and then came back in a minute and said, "OK."

I got there 1 hour later, wrote my check for the car and drove away.

Done deal.

That approach will work fine (new or used car) if you are actually offering a price that has profit in it for them and is still fair (acceptable) to you. Obviously, since you are buying a used car, you have no way to know what they paid to put that car on their lot, so just use the best resources available to you (Edmunds, Kelly Blue Book, etc.) and come up with a price that is reasonable for the car you are buying.

If you buy from the dealer, know too that they will offer you the option to extend your warranty/free maintenance period. The price on that is negotiable. If you want it, make sure you tell them that if/when you call them and have the conversation about the price of the car. The price you specify should include the extended warranty/free maintenance coverage you want.

The dealer may offer you all sorts of other sh*t as well -- Lojack, tire protection, paint protection, testicle grooming, etc. All that stuff costs them essentially nothing, so whatever price they offer is also something you can negotiate....you can safely assume that the price they offer to sell it at is either at least $500 more than or 4 times what it cost them.

I don't know how many miles are on the dealer-owned car you are considering, but you are entitled to the balance of the original warranty and service contract on the car. So too if you buy it from a private seller.

If you do buy the car from a private seller, you can pay a BMW dealer to CPO it for you, but the cost to do so may difficult to negotiate. If you do buy from a private seller, make darn sure you know whether the HPFP has failed and been replaced, heck, find that out regardless of from whom you buy the car. (Carfax can help with that if you feel someone may be less than candid with you.)

Note that the HPFP is warrantied up to 120K miles, and it doesn't matter who has the car as far as I know. You may want to confirm that fact with the dealer's service department...

The HPFP thing is the only thing I've heard about as a common problem. And truthfully, even that only happens to about 5-10% of owners. (I'm at 35K miles and it hasn't happened to me.) The prevalence of its mention on this forum is not what is observed in the general population of owners.

I don't lose any sleep worrying about whether my HPFP will fail.
jefj335i2010-08-18 03:17:56 +0000 #7
Hi, I recently purchased a 2007 CPO 335i and wouldn't buy one without extended warranty. I have it in the shop due to 1) wastegate rattle (going to replace actuators) and 2) repair to seatbelt handover. Repairs are being done under original warranty. I think its worth the money to go CPO.
ellisz2010-08-18 03:42:36 +0000 #8
I bought a 2007 with 36k miles from a Honda dealer. I plan to get the extended warranty that BMW offers in a few months. I do have the 120k coverage on the HPFP though.
mrk13p2010-08-18 04:58:03 +0000 #9
i think cpo is a "MUST" for n54
E30M3Driver2010-08-18 03:32:09 +0000 #10
I've had my 07 335i coupe since new. I leased it for 24 months then bought it out from the lease. When I bought it, I cpo'd it - cost me about $1200 which was pretty much close to dealer cost - originally they wanted to charge about $2K for that. $4-5k premium for cpo is not worth it, they are asking way too much.

The HPFP and fuel injectors are probably the most common issues. The HPFP is covered regardless as has previously been stated.

My car has has had only one minor trim issue that had to be dealt with under warranty, other than that it has been the most problem free BMW I have ever owned. That being said, I wouldn't have it without some sort of warranty and I think the BMW CPO is the best - you never have any issues with it from dealer to dealer and don't have to worry about the warranty company going broke and it is straightforward when talking to the service advisors - they know what they can and can't do and don't have to interface with a 3rd party.

Good luck. I'd negotiate down that price if they really are charging 4-5K for the CPO portion.
morfinx2010-08-18 03:57:59 +0000 #11
So you guys think that BMW's 2 additional years of warranty that comes with a CPO is better than a reputable third party's (i.e. Warranty Direct) extended warranty?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony20009

The CPO is worth having. You can negotiate the price of the car with the dealership; just make it clear to them that you are ready and able to buy the car and be firm.

Thanks for sharing your experience Tony. That was very helpful!

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Originally Posted by mrk13p

i think cpo is a "MUST" for n54

Is there something wrong with the N54?
morfinx2010-08-18 06:44:24 +0000 #12
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Originally Posted by E30M3Driver

I've had my 07 335i coupe since new. I leased it for 24 months then bought it out from the lease. When I bought it, I cpo'd it - cost me about $1200 which was pretty much close to dealer cost - originally they wanted to charge about $2K for that. $4-5k premium for cpo is not worth it, they are asking way too much.

Thanks for the advice

So if the price is very good on a non-CPO car, would you recommend I go with that, and then get it CPO'ed at a dealership?

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