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Why the 335d will be soon obsolete

Saintor2010-08-18 05:55:11 +0000 #1
Well in my book, it was never relevant anyway. The very efficient high direct pressure N53 is just around the corner in North America.

528i automatic (44.5K$) 2011 N53 22/32mpg

335d automatic (44K$) 2011 35d 23/36mpg

If the N53 would be in the lighter E90 chassis, odds are that the 335d mpg figures would be matched. Sure the 335d is more powerful (BMW chose to detune the N53 from 272HP to 240 for NA, probably marketing reason) , but BMW still claims 0-60mph is apprx 6.5s (0-62 in 6.7s) for a 528i Step, they are usually conservative, so it won't be too far from that 335d.
maswastage2010-08-18 06:10:35 +0000 #2
You can try to make yourself feel better about your gasser using facts (higher redline, manual transmission option), but claiming that it'll be as efficient as a diesel is edging toward fantasy. Let's ignore for a second that the EPA's 23/36 estimates have been shown to be conservative by actual owners, and focus more on the fact that even with those estimates the diesel is still both faster and more efficient.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but to become obsolete, a technology must be replaced with something superior to it in just about every way. If being slower and burning more fuel is superior, then by golly I must have stumbled upon bizarro-world e90post.
TheRox2010-08-18 06:18:50 +0000 #3
who cares?
Dave_32010-08-18 06:55:06 +0000 #4
Nonsense.

If the 335D becomes obsolete it will be because of a newer and even better Diesel.

Fool that I am, I am glad to be driving an irrelevance.

A very economical torque monster.

The updated 35D engine as fitted to the 535D GT is waiting in the wings too.

D.
Thud2010-08-18 06:45:49 +0000 #5
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintor

Well in my book, it was never relevant anyway. The very efficient high direct pressure N53 is just around the corner in North America.

528i automatic (44.5K$) 2011 N53 22/32mpg

335d automatic (44K$) 2011 35d 23/36mpg

If the N53 would be in the lighter E90 chassis, odds are that the 335d mpg figures would be matched. Sure the 335d is more powerful (BMW chose to detune the N53 from 272HP to 240 for NA, probably marketing reason) , but BMW still claims 0-60mph is apprx 6.5s (0-62 in 6.7s) for a 528i Step, they are usually conservative, so it won't be too far from that 335d.

236 ft-lbs torque vs 425. Um, OK.
Saintor2010-08-18 07:58:47 +0000 #6
Quote:

Originally Posted by maswastage

If being slower and burning more fuel is superior, then by golly I must have stumbled upon bizarro-world e90post.

Actually, it is not.

Factor in the annual 100$ of urea usage billed by the dealer after warranty, and the marginal $ difference just disappear. 23mpg vs 22 is nothing to brag about.

Same goes with the acceleration. Give the N53 the missing 32HP that BMW hold from the Euro 330i and again the acceleration is the same. As is today compared to a 528i, the difference is less than 0.5s. Again, nothing to brag about.

There is no future for diesel in North American cars.
WWONG2010-08-18 07:05:13 +0000 #7
Troll Detected
tag8242010-08-18 06:33:58 +0000 #8
blah, blah, blah
PJPHughes2010-08-18 09:04:11 +0000 #9
This post really doesn't warrant a response.

If you don't like diesel, don't buy one. It's as simple as that.

I like my 425 lb/ft....and prefer it to the 335i I had. End of story...oh, and no issues in a year, unlike my 335i that suffered two HPFP issues in 8K miles. The 335d is the best car I've ever owned.
Blubaron792010-08-18 07:57:18 +0000 #10
If the 335d came in a coupe in the states, I'd own one.... The N53 will just replace the N52. You're crazy.
HoustonScott2010-08-18 09:53:19 +0000 #11
The day of gasoline cars are numbered as long as 2016 mileage standards come into reality.

HS
Coolieman12202010-08-18 11:09:50 +0000 #12
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintor

Well in my book, it was never relevant anyway. The very efficient high direct pressure N53 is just around the corner in North America.

528i automatic (44.5K$) 2011 N53 22/32mpg

335d automatic (44K$) 2011 35d 23/36mpg

If the N53 would be in the lighter E90 chassis, odds are that the 335d mpg figures would be matched. Sure the 335d is more powerful (BMW chose to detune the N53 from 272HP to 240 for NA, probably marketing reason) , but BMW still claims 0-60mph is apprx 6.5s (0-62 in 6.7s) for a 528i Step, they are usually conservative, so it won't be too far from that 335d.

you my friend are a hater on crack. crack that is made with gasoline. You try to get 22/32 out of that motor. see how much of a bitch you have to drive it to get close to those numbers. you drive a diesel, have fun with the throttle and you still get those 22/32 numbers with the diesel. drive the diesel like a bitch and imagine what you can get. not to mention diesel is cheaper than premium, along with Eco Credit ($4500) & federal tax refunds.

Oh BTW, diesel blocks are MUCH stronger than gas blocks. And you can modify the diesel too because its turbo so thats easier. Easily get more power. so when your gas engine gets HPFP issues or something like that then what?

Have you ever even driven a diesel? Imagine if BMW brought over a 320d or a 520d? of even a 330d or a 530d. then what?

People here don't buy diesel because they are ignorant and because American car companies can't make a proper diesel engine. Urea doesn't cost $100 a year btw. The cost of the urea is offset by the fuel saved and the fuel price.

Clearly you have something against oil burners...like i said people in North America are ignorant. You prove my point and case...

3 weeks with my d and i love her! you hurt her feelings...

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