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HPFP AOL article comparing bmw "engine problem" to toyota acceleration problems

blck335i2010-08-18 11:22:26 +0000 #1
Not sure if this is a repost but I just came across this article...

Talks all about the fuel pump problems on 335 comparing with toyota accelerator issues.

Maybe BMW will actually solve the problem if this bad press catches on...

www.dailyfinance.com...-the-compa/19560998/
Nedim2010-08-18 11:37:39 +0000 #2
I hope the press catches on
Socom2010-08-18 11:33:47 +0000 #3
Interesting point: "Arthur C. Wheaton, director of the Western N.Y. Labor and Environmental Programs at Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations, says the existence of these TSBs indicates that BMW has communicated with NHTSA and "is in full compliance with the law."

Amazes me people still buy cars equipped with the N54.
vasillalov2010-08-18 12:29:06 +0000 #4
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Originally Posted by Socom

Amazes me people still buy cars equipped with the N54.

N55 engine has the same exact fuel pump as the N54. Moreover, the N55 is now the most widely spread engine across the BMW brand.

You continue to be amazed?
blck335i2010-08-18 12:19:50 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by Socom

Interesting point: "Arthur C. Wheaton, director of the Western N.Y. Labor and Environmental Programs at Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations, says the existence of these TSBs indicates that BMW has communicated with NHTSA and "is in full compliance with the law."

Amazes me people still buy cars equipped with the N54.

I guess Im one of those people... 2010 335i

I will say I love the car and I did know about the problem before buying, but reading here about how much people were into the car and the mod ability reminded me of my days w e36 M3 so i came back.

I havent had issues yet, but if it happens to me Im ok with just dealing with it.

I don't have to drive my car every day and therefore don't need the daily reliability. I guess if I did I would think otherwise.
BK2010-08-18 12:07:08 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by vasillalov

N55 engine has the same exact fuel pump as the N54. Moreover, the N55 is now the most widely spread engine across the BMW brand.

You continue to be amazed?

Not to mention the N52 has the same HPFP too, in the 330i DI models overseas (thinking specifically of the MY2007+ 330i). And yet HPFP failure doesn't seem to be nearly as widespread a problem over there. I seriously wonder if the use of Ethanol in US gasolines has something to do with this problem.
Tom K.2010-08-18 13:54:03 +0000 #7
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Originally Posted by BK

. I seriously wonder if the use of Ethanol in US gasolines has something to do with this problem.

BMW has advanced this theory on occasion. About a year ago, my service advisor mentioned they had tested a number of samples of local pump gasoline and found up to 20% ethanol! While I have a NA engine since I don't care for turbos, it does seem like BMW stepped up to the plate quite a while ago with the 120,000 mile replacement warranty.

Tom
BayMoWe3352010-08-18 12:11:37 +0000 #8
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Originally Posted by Socom

Interesting point: "Arthur C. Wheaton, director of the Western N.Y. Labor and Environmental Programs at Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations, says the existence of these TSBs indicates that BMW has communicated with NHTSA and "is in full compliance with the law."

Amazes me people still buy cars equipped with the N54.

Give me a break.
cotmfk2010-08-18 14:43:11 +0000 #9
Isn't this a repost? Or does it just feel like it...
Oulixes2010-08-18 12:28:44 +0000 #10
The article is quite reasonable. It seems to be clear that most people who experience HPFP problems do not report them to the NHTSA, consequently the organization believes that there are no grounds for action other than that the agency had already taken. In the thread and elsewhere, it is suggested that people who do not want to live dangerously need not to buy the 335i. Of course, the problem is not limited to the 335i and other cars powered by the N54 engine; the same fuel delivery system is used in the new N55 engine, as has been mentioned. It is also often suggested that the problem is limited to North America. This IMO is unlikely and may only look so, since in many countries car owners have no agency to report the problems to.
JoeyBananaz182010-08-18 14:18:30 +0000 #11
holy shit. cats outta the bag.
tintivilus2010-08-18 16:03:08 +0000 #12
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Originally Posted by Tom K.

About a year ago, my service advisor mentioned they had tested a number of samples of local pump gasoline and found up to 20% ethanol!

The standard BMW test for ethanol content is really, really sloppy. The service tech I talked to a year or two ago said he always has to run it at least three times, and when he's being extra-careful he'll get two readings that are in the same ballpark.

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