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650 or 800?

zacksbf2010-08-09 23:22:12 +0000 #1
I am starting my research now. I have decided the end of this year I will have a new bike in the garage. If Kawasaki doesn't step up big time with the 2011 brute, I will probably get a year end closeout deal on either a 650 or 800 outlander xt or max xt (xt is a must since I want the QE visco).

My question for the Can Am guys; is the 800 really worth the extra money if I am not planning on racing it? The 650 makes more power stock than the brute so it is not like I would be down grading IMO.

The bike will be used just like I have used my brute. I will mud ride 90% of the time and it will have clutch work and probably 30 backs and just a 2 inch lift unless the money is available for more lift, I will also do snorkles. If I can keep the temp down on the next bike I would prefer not relocating the radiator but I understand when you mud ride it gets clogged. I will just hold off til I make a ride or two on it and decide if I need that. I would rather have a big sound system on the front rack .

Thanks in advance for input!


mrkd12010-08-09 23:26:31 +0000 #2
I have a 650 maxXT and like it.

If I was buying and playing in mud all day doing lift/ tires and other stuff think I'd go 800 just for the little extra power I might need.

But for a moderate amount of mud and more trail riding the 650 is all you need.

The max is great nice ride for riding 2 up all day.
zacksbf2010-08-09 23:38:33 +0000 #3
The max does look like it would be comfortable but I think I would loose some bike hauling options with it because unless I am wrong I couldn't side load a max with big tires on it.

That is the only thing that makes me not sure of the standard or max...

The 650 or 800 thing I think is a lot like the 650 or 750 brute. The power difference is not much and even for severe mud riding I don't think the 750 turns big tires any better than the 650 it just has a lil more top end. This is just my opinion from riding with a coupld of 650i brutes because I have never owned one. I know on straight aways runs I could pull it some but I was not just whippin it or anything.
DTX2010-08-10 00:30:22 +0000 #4
The 650 will have all the power you "need". That said, I have never heard of anyone buying an 800 and wishing they had the 650.
madppcs2010-08-10 00:47:43 +0000 #5
The (QE) Visco has nothing to do with being an XT model. The XT is just front-back bumpers,winch, and handlebar covers. ALL 09and10 models are (QE) visco. And you wont need a clutchkit with an 800. An 800 will blow 32s off the rims stock! I am running 30s on my Renegade and have been using stock clutching and my stock belt since day 1. I can still lift the front end in HI with 30s and stock clutching. The 650 and 800 will be very close to the same price OTD.
DTX2010-08-10 00:07:03 +0000 #6
Actually, the 2010 XT, XTP, and Limiteds models are the only ones with the QE visco and DPS power steering.
muddnfool2010-08-10 00:57:54 +0000 #7
the 650 has all the power you need but if you are a speed demon get the 800.
zacksbf2010-08-10 00:14:25 +0000 #8
As DTX stated above the standard models do not have the new QE visco according to Can Am's website and bike specs. I guess they are doing this in 2010 to use the rest of the old style visco diffs in their standard models.

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